Timeline for What we'd like to do about those gosh darn "identification requests" questions
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| Apr 30, 2016 at 5:38 | comment | added | Gao | @ʞɹɐzǝɹ Thanks for the explanation and prompt edit. The current criteria seems be the best option for now, even though I believe many on that list aren't worth keeping and some not on that list are. | |
| Apr 30, 2016 at 5:14 | comment | added | кяαzєя Mod | @Gao Just because 3 pp upvote a question, while 3 ppl downvote it doesn't make it a "good" question. It makes the question controversial. We want to leave some of the better examples of id-req as an example of how they should be asked or answered, but at the same time, we don't want too many of them to be left over as they will be tagged as "untagged." | |
| Apr 30, 2016 at 5:11 | comment | added | кяαzєя Mod | @Gao May 1st is a typo on my part. May 8th is the drop dead date. Using this modified query you can see the questions that will be kept as of this post there are 413, which is still a lot. There are currently about 2,194 id-req questions. I believe that shifting through them is them and removing it bit by bit has no actual benefit. Afterall someone has to spend time sift through these questions and schedule the tasks. | |
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| Apr 30, 2016 at 4:38 | comment | added | Gao | I have a slight objection to the criteria. I think if an answer gets >= 3 (or 5) votes on questions with < 3 && >= -1 votes, they should be considered before deleting them right away. 3 is the mark for well-received (or good) posts on SE. Also, is there any way to separate the upvotes from the downvotes? IMO, a post with 3 upvotes and 3 downvotes is different from a post with 0 upvotes and 0 downvotes, although both balance out to be 0 net score. By design, an upvote assigns more reputation than a downvote takes away, so 3/3 is not equivalent to 0/0. | |
| Apr 30, 2016 at 4:31 | comment | added | Gao | You said in the question that we have until May 8 to make our case, but you'll start implementing things after May 1? Suggestions: 1) before implementing anything, it would be courteous to the community to provide in the post a SQL query (probably not the one updated by Ross Ridge) that correctly identifies the questions that would be removed according to the criteria. 2) divide the post removals into phases, so for example you'll delete questions with negative scores with no upvoted answers by date XXX, then you'll delete questions with < 1 score with no answers > 3 scores by date YYY. | |
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| Apr 27, 2016 at 19:03 | history | edited | кяαzєяMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Apr 27, 2016 at 13:04 | comment | added | Ankit Sharma | ++++++1, go forward, so that i can also stole the idea for movies.se and give a successful example of implemented site. | |
| Apr 26, 2016 at 13:06 | comment | added | Toshinou Kyouko Mod | @Memor-X indeed - I should have been clearer, I just would like some disambiguity between the "Now" now and the "Now" in the future, so that people aren't confused. | |
| Apr 26, 2016 at 11:37 | comment | added | Memor-X | @ToshinouKyouko well it hasn't been a week since this meta was even posted. i know all out VTC Trigger Fingers are twitching with anticipation we need to give the subject a bit of time so people can have their say | |
| Apr 25, 2016 at 18:06 | comment | added | Toshinou Kyouko Mod | When will this closure come into effect? We will need a new closure reason | |
| Apr 22, 2016 at 15:38 | comment | added | Ross Ridge | @Makoto Sorry, about the misattribution. That's not what "questions with a score of 3 or less without at least one answer with a score of 3 or more" means. It means a question must have score of 3 or less AND be without at least one answer with a score of 3 or more" in order to be deleted. If you reverse it you get "a question must have a score of 4 or more OR have (be not without) at least one question with a score of 3 or more" in order to be kept. | |
| Apr 22, 2016 at 15:30 | comment | added | Makoto | @RossRidge: That was actually my query, and I do feel like it's an AND - we're trying to catch questions with a score greater than 3 and at least one answer with a score greater than 3. That actually shows what's going to be kept. If you want the inverse, flip the inequalities. | |
| Apr 22, 2016 at 6:12 | comment | added | кяαzєя Mod | @Memor-X Music identification is series specific, so it's not an id-req. Questions about doujinshi should be acceptable. However identifying a doujinshi of a specific series is an id-req and should not include a series tag as there really is no direct connection. However if you wish would like to ask about finding a doujinshi a specific author did on a specific series, then you can use the author name and the series name as tags. This makes identifying the title more specific and answerable, as opposed to grasping for straws in the dark like we currently do for id-reqs. | |
| Apr 22, 2016 at 6:04 | comment | added | Memor-X | Curious, would asking to id the name of a doujin that belongs to a series based off a page or id-ing music from within a series become off-topic? | |
| Apr 22, 2016 at 4:18 | comment | added | кяαzєя Mod | @Maroon that one should have never been tagged with id-req. Id-reqs should never have a series tag. | |
| Apr 22, 2016 at 4:11 | comment | added | Ross Ridge | @Maroon It should be possible to catch questions like that fairly easy by looking for [identification-request] posts that are also tagged with a series or movie. Also your SEDE query doesn't seem to match the criteria given in this post for an id-request to not be deleted. As I read it, if question has a score of 4 or more, OR if a question has an answer with a score of 4 or more it's not deleted. Here's an updated query: data.stackexchange.com/anime/query/476523/… | |
| Apr 22, 2016 at 2:38 | comment | added | Maroon | Is step (2) going to "catch" questions like this one, which presumably might still be acceptable under the new policy? | |
| Apr 22, 2016 at 2:18 | comment | added | Makoto | Here's the same query revamped to indicate if a question has been closed. If you want to exclude those kinds of questions, it's not too tough from here. | |
| Apr 22, 2016 at 2:12 | comment | added | Makoto | Also, I see no reason why the blacklist couldn't be instantaneous outside of technical limitations, which would imply that we need more hamsters for the server farm... ;) | |
| Apr 22, 2016 at 2:12 | comment | added | Makoto | I fear you're being far too optimistic about the quality of these questions, and even more conservative with the bounds you specify. I've created an SEDE query to play around with min question score and min answer score. You can see if there's anything that's exemplary in there, but I'm not as confident. | |
| Apr 21, 2016 at 13:19 | comment | added | giraffesyo | @Memor-X since the tag would be blacklisted similar to the anime tag, you would not be able to add the tag to a question | |
| Apr 21, 2016 at 11:13 | comment | added | Memor-X | @MadaraUchiha i thought a tag can only be removed if it's not in use | |
| Apr 21, 2016 at 11:12 | comment | added | Madara's Ghost Mod | @Memor-X We can remove the tag from the questions and lock them with a historical lock. | |
| Apr 21, 2016 at 10:47 | comment | added | Memor-X | if we are keeping some of the good id requests then i can't see how we can remove the tag at all | |
| Apr 21, 2016 at 9:39 | history | answered | кяαzєяMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |